Vicky Beeching - Latest Comments

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Biorr — Thu, 11 Aug 2022 19:15:56 -0000

Re: Christian feminism is not an oxymoron

Sara Bee — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 05:05:30 -0000

No I'm sorry but your article is completely wrong. Jesus was not a feminist. He was egalitarian (concerned with the rights of all people both male and female). And you are wrong about your analogy with the story of Mary and Martha. Mary chose the better part because she took time out to engage with Christ instead of worrying about service, which is what a lot of Christians do, they worry about 'doing for Christ' instead of worrying about taking quiet time to get to know God better. Remember people will come before Jesus on the last day and say to Him 'Lord did we not cast out demons in your name? And He will say 'I do not know you' so Mary chose the better part because she took time to engage with Christ personally.

No Christian woman should associate herself with the word feminsm (especially now as we are in the third wave of feminsm) even women of the world who are smart know this. Please do not teach our children that this idea is acceptable because right now feminsm is doing a lot of harm. I do agree with the points you made about how Jesus treated women and everyone should treat women the way He did but don't call yourself a feminist. If you look at modern day feminsm it has nothing to do with the things God teaches us.

Re: My support of same-sex marriage

Michael Borusiewicz — Wed, 29 Mar 2017 08:06:06 -0000

I support gay marriage too but I believe they should get married in the public toilets where they meet.

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Re: My support of same-sex marriage

Josiah Neal — Tue, 07 Mar 2017 06:26:03 -0000

Your comment here is simply meaningless rebuttal of arguments that 'Kevin' did not even produce, thus you are committing the straw man fallacy

Re: My support of same-sex marriage

Josiah Neal — Tue, 07 Mar 2017 06:22:21 -0000

Can you just actually do some Bible research before committing an argumentum ad temperantium fallacy in you comments?

Re: Christian feminism is not an oxymoron

ABCXYZ — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 22:52:40 -0000

No, you are like the typical blue eyed blonde thinking you are God's gift to men because of your so called physical attractiveness yet, you will grow old like Madonna etc. when no man or woman or child will take notice of you. You are totally evil to say "Jesus was a feminist| plus, delusional, insane and logically will go straight to hell. Keep it up as you will gradually, over the years comprehend.

Re: Christian feminism is not an oxymoron

Cammi — Thu, 01 Dec 2016 17:28:48 -0000

I absolutely agree with you - men and women should be equal, but they are not the same. I am a feminist in a very different way than most. I want EQUALITY, I don't want to reign over men, I don't want to be bullied into leaving my children with a nanny so I can have a successful career in the name of progression (Although I DO want to have a successful career, and maybe I will leave my children with a nanny at times, who knows?). I want to be viewed as equal to my husband even if I am a stay-at-home mom, even if I do dress very femininely, even if I do most of the housework. I want the world to celebrate our differences but still view our worth as equal.

Re: Honest Thoughts On Singleness & Church

ARealTrueHonestAnswer — Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:33:32 -0000

The real problem is that many women will Curse at us men for just trying to start a conversation with the one that we would really want to meet since unfortunately this did happen to me which really Shock the hell out of me. And a friend that i know had it happen to him as well before it even happened to me which i can really see that we have so many very Mentally Disturbed Women out there these days which makes it very Scary how the women of today really are. Women now have totally Changed since the old days when Most of them back then were certainly so much Nicer and a lot Easier to meet the way our family members had it back then since they were Very Blessed in those days finding Real Love with one another since today many of our family members are still Amazingly together now as well. I know what i have said with my last Comment since i repeated myself which is very true by the way since the times today are nothing like it was back then. So for many of us men looking for real love you can really see how much of a real Challenge it really is for us unfortunately since many of us are Not Single By Choice. Now with all these Reality TV Shows that they have on these days have Corrupted many of these women's minds as well as the Media that has really made it Worse as well.

Re: C. S. Lewis On Life After Death

Bill — Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:47:25 -0000

Complicated! On the one hand, I've always love Lewis' works, and I think the episode with righteous Emeth being accepted is in some sense quite acceptable. We must, however, keep very clear the distinction between "being saved through Christ and His Atonement" (which is the means for salvation for every one who is saved, from Adam to the present), versus "knowing the Gospel and consciously acknowledging it". On the one hand, some Christians bluntly state that people who have never heard the Gospel (having lived before Christ, or outside the range of it's telling) are simply damned and that is all there is to it. I have always felt that there is something terribly wrong about that position... not only it's cruel indifference, but also the severely truncated and over-simplified view it takes of God's work in the world. The Bible clearly speaks of the "promise of a coming Savior" who will be "born of the seed of the woman". This promise, made to Adam and Eve, is thus made (through them) to the entire human race. Knowledge of it, and the hope that it contains, is thus universal to all humankind. There are thus, in the broad sense, no people who are "altogether ignorant" of Christ (though many, of course, are or were very ignorant of what today's Christians would consider important details of our history). Some of my fellow Christians think I go too far in this, but it seems to me far more consistent with God's love, mercy and justice than a mere "you're in / you're out" assessment made on the basis of whether or not you "claimed faith". We know, for one thing, that many who claim faith are proven later to be frauds. Is it not then possible that there are some who, having never "heard" the Gospel, nonetheless have a saving faith in their hearts? Certainly a person of repentant spirit, knowing their own sins, and hoping for forgiveness may be of the right heart towards God, even if he lived 100 years before Christ and far from the Holy Land. Is it better to be this man, than to be a pious fraud who claims to be a Christian, but in whom there is no repentance, humility, or forgiveness toward others? We know the fate of the latter. We are not told (in detail) how the former is handled. However, in this day, we are confronted more and more, not with the "philosophical" question of salvation, but with Syncretism. The desire to "blend" religious beliefs and convince ourselves that "all roads lead to God". Well... they most certainly do NOT. This is to claim faith in "Tashlan", to use Lewis's story line. For those who HAVE been presented with the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the issue of what is done about those who haven't heard is simply irrelevant. THEY HAVE HEARD... or, to put it more precisely, what previous generations of redeemed people have hoped for, and looked for, is now openly declared and presented to them as HISTORICAL FACT. Anyone who, being of a "saved spirit", hears the Gospel of Christ will instantly recognize in it the substance of all that he or she has been hoping for all throughout their lives. Anyone, therefore, in today's world where the message of the Gospel has gone out to every nation, tribe and tongue, who tries to claim that "all ways lead to God" is being deliberately "coy". He is trying to not make a choice. For the pre-Christian, they desperately want to make a choice that they have not yet been presented with. For the Modern, the choice is manifestly before them and they are trying to AVOID MAKING IT. Very, very different situation indeed! Beware of multiculturalism. It borrows a cup of Christian charity to empower it's recipe, but it blends it with the poison of syncretism. The Light of Christ has come into the world, and modern Man is rejecting that light because his deeds are evil. This is not "lack of knowledge". It is willful blindness. If we are (as ancient man) hard-of-hearing, then God will speak up. If we have poor sight, He will increase the brightness of the Light. But willfully refusing to hear, or to see, is dangerous. A very loud sound will make us deaf, and a very bright light will make us blind. There comes a point in time, where we are no longer dealing with "innocent lack of knowledge". As Lewis put it so well elsewhere, we differ from pre-Christian pagan man "the way a divorcee' differs from a virgin". We are no longer "innocently outside the faith". Such people want, desperately, to be told that "all roads lead to God" so that they can AVOID following the path set before them. That choice, too, is a "path" and where it leads, I'm afraid, we know (or SHOULD know) all too well.

Re: LGBT Theology: What does the Bible say?

venerablebede — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:37:20 -0000

Hi. I have learned a great deal reading through the comments made here 2 years ago, and especially from some of the gracious and patient contributions from those who know what they're talking about.

My name's Norman. As some of you might guess from my username my main interest is History. Not theology then. I did a little theology in order to do my course as a Reader. I became interested in the homosexuality debate when it became a big issue in Uganda, a country in which I taught many years ago. More recently, I became interested in the debate in this country, particularly the way it was causing division within the Church and in our witness and ministry.

About 4 years ago I was following the various threads on homosexuality on the Fulcrum Forum, and a simple phrase in one of the contributions completely changed my views. It was something along the lines of “sometimes the plain reading of Scripture gets in the way of behaving like a decent human being”. I came to the decision that the traditional teaching of the Church was wrong. It was a kind of act of faith. The 6 texts suddenly looked different, but any reasoning that might have been involved might not make sense to the learned theologians who have contributed here.

So apart from informing my vicar that I had changed my mind on homosexuality, I left it there, because important though it is my interests lie elsewhere. When the Fulcrum forum closed down I gave up trying to find the proof text which I thought must be out there somewhere.

A week ago I found it – hence my sudden appearance on this blog, two years after most other people. My proof text is not from the Bible, but from a book called 'The formation of a persecuting society' by R.I.Moore, a book I happened to come across last week There are, of course, too many History books: this is my excuse, a History graduate, for not knowing who R.I.Moore was. He is the Editor in Chief of Blackwell's (rather ambitious) multi-volumed History of the World. Among other things this suggests he has no particular axe to grind in what I now regard as the silly impasse that Conservative Evangelicals in particular have got ourselves into with regard to homosexuality. But, as it happens, I believe he has provided the key to removing it.

The Church is very precise and clear that sexual contact between men or between women is sinful. This would suggest that from Saint Paul onwards the teaching of the Church on this matter has been crystal clear. As pointed out in Vicky's introduction the Evangelical Alliance described the issue as '… what has been perceived by some as a campaign to change the Church’s historic view on human sexuality'. That would appear to be the opinion of many of the contributions here. Ian Paul, for example, summed up Vicky's position in the following way: 'Vicky says she is rejecting the well-established teaching over generations, based on the Scriptures'.

But how many generations I wonder?

What R.I.Moore points out, partly on the basis of another book, 'Christianity, Social Tolerance and Homosexuality - Gay People in Western Europe from the Beginning of the Christian Era to the Fourteenth Century' by John Boswell - is that the Western Church did not regard homosexual behaviour in particular as a sin until the 12th Century. For a thousand years the Church was content to advocate chastity and condemn adultery, and homosexual misbehaviour was considered within this context and not as a special sin in its own right.

The crucial point that Moore makes, which one might guess from the title of his book, is that it was a change in society in the 11th Century, not primarily in Church or Christian thought, that was behind the definition of homosexual behaviour as a sin worthy of the severest punishment by Church authorities. The change was spearheaded by bishops, abbots and kings, and it was not motivated by theology. The change in society can be seen, for example, in the Crusade movement, which identified Islam as the enemy. But enemies closer to home, Jews, heretics and lepers, were now identified too, and many began to die at the hands of the Church during the 13th century. This, Moore makes clear, is the context in which homosexuals were suddenly picked on. By 1300 the accusation of sodomy had become a reason for prosecution, with death the normal punishment and persecution of homosexuals the norm.

The Church was wicked not to have seen that at the time, and even more wicked that it continues to do so today. It is time the persecution stopped.

I am extremely sorry it took me about half a century as a born-again Christian before I began to think it through.

Re: Christian feminism is not an oxymoron

JigenFangirl7964 — Tue, 16 Aug 2016 02:39:06 -0000

I just did a 2 second google search on Bible quotes about women. Women with short hair, women who wear pants, women who wear flashy clothing, makeup, & jewelry, women who don't cover their hair, women who have unmarried sex, women who have children out of wedlock, women who do not obey their husbands & fathers are all to be punished, & a woman who chooses not to bear children should become a nun & live a chaste life.

It's just as retarded for a woman to be christian as it is retarded for a woman to be muslim.

Re: Honest Thoughts On Singleness & Church

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Re: My support of same-sex marriage

Lance C — Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:54:55 -0000

I'll always love you Maggie B....I certainly disagree with you, but your music ministry has touched my life so deeply that I cannot argue the powerful anointing that you have on your life...you will always be in my prayers

Re: LGBT Theology: What does the Bible say?

FC — Thu, 14 Jul 2016 01:13:55 -0000

Absolutely beautiful.

Re: LGBT Theology: What does the Bible say?

FC — Thu, 14 Jul 2016 01:11:09 -0000

Love this! You showed Ould his attacks and his only response is; "leave me alone waaaaaaaaaaaa!"

Re: Honest Thoughts On Singleness & Church

Browales — Mon, 04 Jul 2016 20:08:24 -0000

Please Bro ARealTrueHonestAnswer, take it easy. Keep praying and searching, if marriage is what you desire, the good lady will cross your path.

Re: Honest Thoughts On Singleness & Church

ARealTrueHonestAnswer — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 20:50:45 -0000

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Re: My support of same-sex marriage

catherine — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 14:29:05 -0000

god teaches love couples of the same sex who love each other can marry or live together legally in most places. without offense to god? couples who marry in the face of god go against the nature of god! believe me I'm not beyond reproach, but us mortals have to live by some kind morals, whatever they may be! I do not discriminate against nor judge anyone for their lifestyle. this is my personal opinion.

Re: Christian feminism is not an oxymoron

mspeabooks — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 07:48:36 -0000

“During Jesus' ministry, He ignored numerous Old Testament edicts which specified inequality. He demonstrated this by teaching female students. He accepted women in his inner circle. Mary (called Magdalene), Joanna the wife of Chuza, (Herod's steward) Susanna, and many others, supported Him. He appeared first to a woman after His Resurrection. He talked to foreign women. Jesus changed the male-favored doctrine of divorce: He said both could be found guilty of adultery.”

Excerpt From: Mike Stair. “The World’s Favorite Bible Verses.” MS Peabooks, 2013. iBooks. https://itun.es/us/8lbRJ.n

Re: LGBT Theology: What does the Bible say?

brentvermillion — Fri, 19 Feb 2016 14:17:34 -0000

Vicky, sadly you and I and everyone knows that the Bible does not condone homosexuality, same-sex marriage or any of the other agenda parts of the LGBT. It is clear that Scripture even teaches stoning for those who participate in homosexual and/or adulteress sexual behavior. I am an Evangelical pastor who has worked both in the USA and in Europe (over 25 years in Spain). I ask myself why you feel that you need to be accepted by evangelicals and why you feel that evangelicals have to change to accommodate your viewpoint and your lifestyle. You know that biblical christians will never agree with you so why don't you just accept that you are no longer an evangelical christian. This does not mean that we evangelicals hate you, but we do pray for you and we do believe that you have chosen a lifestyle of sin based on what the Bible describes as sin. You simply can't have it both ways. if you wish to be an evangelical then believe and live what evangelicals believe. if you wish to be a lesbian and proponent of the LGBT agenda (considered sinful by all evangelicals) then embrace that. You have the power of choice but you cannot make anyone else choose what you are choosing nor do we have to approve of you, your choice and your lifestyle. At the end of the day, we would all give an account of our choice(s) before a loving and just God. You will not be an exception and neither will I. You are in the prayers of many evangelicals who love you but could never in a million years agree with you.

Re: Christian feminism is not an oxymoron

Benjamin Horvat — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 21:28:05 -0000

Christ was not a man that would attack a woman like you just did, Mr, or perhaps the comment was aimed at Mr Prescott. Regardless...

In the respect that Christ honored women promoted women loved women and worked with women, perhaps he would fit the description of a feminist better than you'd fit the description of a Christian. I'm not sure but I'm just saying its a possibility...

Benjamin

Re: Christian feminism is not an oxymoron

Mike — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:45:29 -0000

Christ was not a feminist, you lying, degenerate apostate.

Re: LGBT Theology: What does the Bible say?

letallthatisGODbemanifestetc.. — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 18:28:50 -0000

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/a...
it's the first time I've seen it spelled out like that

are there any Christians who would like to justify this method? I would like to hear how you can complain about homosexuality as 'pornea' and yet there is this young virgin being put through meaningless masturbation encouraged to think about women in a sexual way told to be exposed to pornography and then told to sleep with women apparently quite randomly..... great respect for women being shown here....( and then what? they all get demonised too) .... it all sounds pretty ugly school for predatory... climaxing as.... rape by proxy? ... christian whoever you are... ... this method appears to be sexual abuse of one form or another and if you support it puts you as agent provocateur and in the act by proxy ... so come on guys you support this sort of thing so ....let's be havng your justification...
straight people can be so perverse
is it poignant that it all started with... his father wanting to spare his son? is that for real? didn't want to have a second class citizen son.... cos of the unsaid shame perhaps? father is prepared to wreck the family .... what was he thinking?....
I remember a conversation with a woman whose grown up child was totally blind she said it was better than the child being gay because of the discrimination a gay child would face... !?
Come on God... You can do better than this!
GOD BLESS!
PEace and Love,

Re: LGBT Theology #1

letallthatisGODBEMANIFEST! — Thu, 22 Oct 2015 18:09:07 -0000

this was written a year ago... and am reading tjhese words now... and just feel really moved .by the effort of holding onto something cos its always been that way hasn't it?
just allow yourself to be led by God .. wherever it takes you ... trust that God has a better idea than anything I can up with ... but yes oh God I do need the proof.
GOD BLESS!
Peace and Love,

Re: Cameron’s cyber-bullying advice

robot maker — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 00:31:44 -0000

Man oh man that lyecdevf is still a pathetic loser.